Well we were 8.5 tonight ended up 5th. I have no problem taking $4800 for a not so perfect run. My lil horse is still taking a bit to get him settled in the corner but once he's ready it on! I roped really sharp around the neck and got a good go at him. When I went to gather the legs I missed the back legs and had to regather costing me at least half a second. So the run was far from perfect. This pen really is kind of phony. I have been lucky enough to stay on the good end of the draw which has been nice for a change. Four more times!!!